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		<title>By: ianpeatey</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dragos. I like this way of thinking about money and especially the part about getting burned without a relationship with it. It&#039;s the same with anything that flows (as money does) - I can really help us but if the pressure builds, or it gets out of control then it can do real damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dragos. I like this way of thinking about money and especially the part about getting burned without a relationship with it. It&#8217;s the same with anything that flows (as money does) &#8211; I can really help us but if the pressure builds, or it gets out of control then it can do real damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragos Roua</title>
		<link>http://www.quantumlearning.pl/you-dont-need-money/comment-page-1#comment-6791</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragos Roua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly helpful in overcoming the modern obsession over money, fueled mostly by the last 1-200 years of capitalism. It&#039;s certainly making sense to overcome this obsession.

For me, money is a form of energy. It helps me convert my ideas, dreams or vision into matter. It does this pretty fast as compared with other forms of energy (basically because we live in a money driven society and that makes it pretty common around us). But what I did found interesting is that the moment you don&#039;t have a meaning between you and your money, you get burned. The same way you get burn when you stick your fingers into a power outlet. Stick there something meaningful, like a cooking device for instance, and voila, you transformed electricity (a form of energy) into matter. The same goes for money: as long as you chase empty numbers, you get burned. The moment you put a goal between you and money, like a travel, a lifestyle, a new experience, you&#039;re safe. 

As always, money is neutral in itself, it&#039;s use who give a meaning (or not) to it.

Thanks, Ian, for making me think again at this :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly helpful in overcoming the modern obsession over money, fueled mostly by the last 1-200 years of capitalism. It&#8217;s certainly making sense to overcome this obsession.</p>
<p>For me, money is a form of energy. It helps me convert my ideas, dreams or vision into matter. It does this pretty fast as compared with other forms of energy (basically because we live in a money driven society and that makes it pretty common around us). But what I did found interesting is that the moment you don&#8217;t have a meaning between you and your money, you get burned. The same way you get burn when you stick your fingers into a power outlet. Stick there something meaningful, like a cooking device for instance, and voila, you transformed electricity (a form of energy) into matter. The same goes for money: as long as you chase empty numbers, you get burned. The moment you put a goal between you and money, like a travel, a lifestyle, a new experience, you&#8217;re safe. </p>
<p>As always, money is neutral in itself, it&#8217;s use who give a meaning (or not) to it.</p>
<p>Thanks, Ian, for making me think again at this <img src='http://www.quantumlearning.pl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ianpeatey</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marie (Coming out of the trees) .. and welcome. Sounds like a very helpful life lesson. And got me thinking whether anything at all that we think we own, actually belongs to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marie (Coming out of the trees) .. and welcome. Sounds like a very helpful life lesson. And got me thinking whether anything at all that we think we own, actually belongs to us.</p>
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		<title>By: ianpeatey</title>
		<link>http://www.quantumlearning.pl/you-dont-need-money/comment-page-1#comment-6783</link>
		<dc:creator>ianpeatey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe more that we can delay the time between receiving the money and exchanging it - so we can store it. There&#039;s no value in money beyond it&#039;s exchangeability. 

And I fully agree about the market .. especially when it comes to salary v contribution. I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s due to the market system or capitalism. The market system is actually pretty intelligent .. but not the capital oriented economy. Capital goes to where the profit is - not where the contribution and value to the world is. 

I have a degree in Economics. Funnily enough I was thinking the other day that economics is based on one thing .. that if the price goes up, demand goes down. There&#039;s really not much more to it than that. So, yes, I don&#039;t believe economists generally are able to take much into account that comes from the realm of human behaviour. What I learned at university was that economics assumes rational behaviour and that people are not rational so surprising things will happen. Sorry if I offended any economists reading. You&#039;ll get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe more that we can delay the time between receiving the money and exchanging it &#8211; so we can store it. There&#8217;s no value in money beyond it&#8217;s exchangeability. </p>
<p>And I fully agree about the market .. especially when it comes to salary v contribution. I&#8217;m not sure if that&#8217;s due to the market system or capitalism. The market system is actually pretty intelligent .. but not the capital oriented economy. Capital goes to where the profit is &#8211; not where the contribution and value to the world is. </p>
<p>I have a degree in Economics. Funnily enough I was thinking the other day that economics is based on one thing .. that if the price goes up, demand goes down. There&#8217;s really not much more to it than that. So, yes, I don&#8217;t believe economists generally are able to take much into account that comes from the realm of human behaviour. What I learned at university was that economics assumes rational behaviour and that people are not rational so surprising things will happen. Sorry if I offended any economists reading. You&#8217;ll get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: ianpeatey</title>
		<link>http://www.quantumlearning.pl/you-dont-need-money/comment-page-1#comment-6782</link>
		<dc:creator>ianpeatey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to hear that Jay. If only there were more people like you then the world would be quite a different place. Not just in relation to money!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to hear that Jay. If only there were more people like you then the world would be quite a different place. Not just in relation to money!</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Ian -

I came to your blog by way of Evan&#039;s blog . . . I&#039;m glad he recommended it to us!

Anyway . . . one of the life lessons I have learned in the last 5-7 years is that the money I have in my hands (or bank account) is no more mine than the oxygen in my lungs is mine.

- Marie (Coming Out of the Trees)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ian -</p>
<p>I came to your blog by way of Evan&#8217;s blog . . . I&#8217;m glad he recommended it to us!</p>
<p>Anyway . . . one of the life lessons I have learned in the last 5-7 years is that the money I have in my hands (or bank account) is no more mine than the oxygen in my lungs is mine.</p>
<p>- Marie (Coming Out of the Trees)</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ian.

I&#039;m not sure is it is a consequence of being a measure of value or a third thing: money is a store of value.  It can sit around not being used (or even sitting around becoming bigger just because there is a lot of it).

This has the tendency to perpetuate and increase social inequity.

As to monetary valuing of contribution: teachers are paid lots, homeschoolers nothing; people who play dress-ups before cameras can be paid millions, no parents I&#039;ve heard of are paid anything similar.  The market is no guide to value of contribution in my view.

I&#039;d also like to know why economists are still listened to: they either didn&#039;t predict or actively contributed to one of the greatest depressions in a century.  Why are they still listened to: my view is that they are the priests of a religion.

Thanks for a thought provoking post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ian.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure is it is a consequence of being a measure of value or a third thing: money is a store of value.  It can sit around not being used (or even sitting around becoming bigger just because there is a lot of it).</p>
<p>This has the tendency to perpetuate and increase social inequity.</p>
<p>As to monetary valuing of contribution: teachers are paid lots, homeschoolers nothing; people who play dress-ups before cameras can be paid millions, no parents I&#8217;ve heard of are paid anything similar.  The market is no guide to value of contribution in my view.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to know why economists are still listened to: they either didn&#8217;t predict or actively contributed to one of the greatest depressions in a century.  Why are they still listened to: my view is that they are the priests of a religion.</p>
<p>Thanks for a thought provoking post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Schryer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Schryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the last paragraph most of all...because that&#039;s exactly the way I like to spend and receive money. If I like something, or want to support someone, I like to purchase whatever they are selling, to encourage them to keep up the good work. Likewise, whenever people feel like they have received something of value from me, it is my hope that they will spend their money to encourage me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the last paragraph most of all&#8230;because that&#8217;s exactly the way I like to spend and receive money. If I like something, or want to support someone, I like to purchase whatever they are selling, to encourage them to keep up the good work. Likewise, whenever people feel like they have received something of value from me, it is my hope that they will spend their money to encourage me.</p>
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